063: Erik Lovell Pt. 1 on growing up Mormon and on personal revelation

In part 1 of 2 Erik Lovell discusses his coming out process and discusses in-depth the importance of personal revelation in his journey.200515_5335420903_6345_n34227_440497036124_3576252_n36973_399374415903_7786422_n

4 comments for “063: Erik Lovell Pt. 1 on growing up Mormon and on personal revelation

  1. A Nichols
    February 9, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    Hello, Erik. Thanks for sharing your story. As a gay former Mormon, I understand what you mean about receiving through prayer an answer of comfort/validation/assurance and *identity* from God about your sexuality. I recall when I finally had the courage to pray and admit to God that “searching all of how I know to be aware–mind, heart, body, spirit, feelings–I have never been attracted to a woman, but rather I am attracted to men” and feeling a deep and comforting secure presence with a simple reply “I Know.”

    However, I don’t believe there is as much leeway from official church doctrine/position as you may believe. Official teachings do not leave the possibility open that homosexuality could be eternal. Actually the church has taken a formal position that being gay is not part of our eternal identity, directly stated as well as strongly implied.

    For example, consider the following excerpt of an interview of Elder Oaks and Elder Wickman, posted on the official LDS site with the following qualification in the introduction: “The transcript of the interview appears below in order to help clarify the Church’s stand on these important, complex and sensitive issues.”

    link: http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/interview-oaks-wickman-same-gender-attraction

    Excerpt:
    “ELDER WICKMAN: One question that might be asked by somebody who is struggling with same-gender attraction is, ‘Is this something I’m stuck with forever? What bearing does this have on eternal life? If I can somehow make it through this life, when I appear on the other side, what will I be like?’
    “Gratefully, the answer is that same-gender attraction did not exist in the pre-earth life and neither will it exist in the next life. It is a circumstance that for whatever reason or reasons seems to apply right now in mortality, in this nano-second of our eternal existence.
    “The good news for somebody who is struggling with same-gender attraction is this: 1) It is that ‘I’m not stuck with it forever.’ It’s just now. Admittedly, for each one of us, it’s hard to look beyond the ‘now’ sometimes. But nonetheless, if you see mortality as now, it’s only during this season. 2) If I can keep myself worthy here, if I can be true to gospel commandments, if I can keep covenants that I have made, the blessings of exaltation and eternal life that Heavenly Father holds out to all of His children apply to me. Every blessing — including eternal marriage — is and will be mine in due course.
    “ELDER OAKS: Let me just add a thought to that. There is no fullness of joy in the next life without a family unit, including a husband, a wife, and posterity. Further, men are that they might have joy. In the eternal perspective, same-gender activity will only bring sorrow and grief and the loss of eternal opportunities.”

    • Erik
      March 3, 2014 at 7:08 pm

      A Nichols,

      I have actually read over that account many times. I struggle to believe what Elder Wickman said as he never backed it up with any doctrinal foundation. It’s much like when my Stake Patriarch stood up and said that homosexuality was a choice. Elder Hafen has also spoken on the subject referring to many outdated and poorly performed scholarly research to argue that sexuality can change.

      So, officially, the church still has an unclear position on the subject (in my view).

  2. Esther
    March 13, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    Thank you Erik and Daniel for the two part interview. I really like it. It was sincere and true. Some great wisdom came out.

  3. Martin
    May 10, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Erik thank you for share your live history.

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